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Subject: Need Philmont packing list From: "Roger Tipley" <email@example.com> Date: 1998/06/16 Message-ID: <01bd992d$7ea0b000$06d3a883@curie> Newsgroups: rec.scouting.usa We're taking a group of boys to do the Mountain Man mini-trek during my wife's Wood Badge at Philmont. We'd like to hear from you experienced backpackers what should be in their backpacks and how much the packs should weigh for a bunch of 14 year-olds. The mini-trek is no different than the regular treks, except that it's shorter in duration. Any reference URLs that have packing lists? Please Email me too. Thank you. YiS, Roger Tipley SM Troop 626, Houston
Subject: Re: Need Philmont packing list From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Used2bBear) Date: 1998/06/17 Message-ID: <1998061703253200.XAA28292@ladder01.news.aol.com> Newsgroups: rec.scouting.usa My kids (2 boys 1 girl) have all done treks, including Mountain Man (Mtn Woman for my daughter). You should have gotten a list with your information. Just FYI, if it's not on the list DON"T take it. They are still subject to shake-downs and anything not on the list (including too much of some items) will be locked up until they return. There is a weigh-station and the packs are weighed. Figure 30% of body weight. Doesn't fit, they empty more. Depending on their size, they could be carrying 40-60lbs. If they are used to hiking, they should be fine. Just make sure they have good, well-broken-in shoes and lots of moleskin and the knowledge to use it! Look in your information packet from Philmont. If you can't find the list, e-mail me privately and I can fax you a copy. Connie Novak Troop 131 (who's Philmont Crew leaves Sunday) McHenry, IL
Subject: Re: Need Philmont packing list From: email@example.com (Stephen M. Henning) Date: 1998/06/17 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Newsgroups: rec.scouting.usa It is different. In a regular trek, the guide does about a 3 day shake down. Then the guide vanishes and the crew follows its itinerary and visits sites that are interesting. On the Mountain Man treks, the first two days are compressed into one day and the guide stays with the group and the group starts out with interesting stops and skips the shake down. Hence it is more important to have the right stuff. Follow the supplied list and keep it at that. -- Cheers, Steve Henning, Reading, Pennsylvania, USA Correct email address is email@example.com (Please forgive my spam deterrent) Visit my home page at http://www.users.fast.net/~shenning
Subject: Re: Need Philmont packing list From: firstname.lastname@example.org Date: 1998/06/16 Message-ID: <email@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.scouting.usa Roger, I'm not sure how to answer your question. Before going on any extended backpack you should have taken at least 3 training hikes in the last few months with at least one of them either at high elevation (mountains at Philmont are 7000-11000 and people do get attitude sickness...can happen to young and old...). or if no high elevation then suggest at least a 3 day trek covering 10 miles per day. Generally if you have done this you'll be ready and have the right equipment. Since you may get rain I would suggest a rain suit over a poncho. Suggest you try the Philmont pages on the web for more information; the first one lots of information. http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont.html http://www.philmont.com/ I'll be there on a regular 12 day trek in August. yis, Kerry